Yesterday our guest at the Geezer's Book Club meeting was the intrepid journalist, Peter Arnett. Ray Herndon, one of our regular members, has known Peter Arnett for over 40 years. They were friendly competitive reporters during the war in Viet Nam, and the friendship has survived several wars since. Peter began speaking with an overview of his time in Viet Nam, and then briefly related a few highlights of the first 1st and 2nd war in Iraq. After taking a deep breath, Peter focused on the intended subject of the day, China and the Chinese people.
Peter is now teaching journalism at a college about 400 miles north of Hong Kong, near the Chinese coast. Peter is 76 years old, in good health, full of energy and enjoys his job as an educator. In that capacity he is able to travel unhindered (not everyone can) throughout China. He has personally observed the daily trials, troubles and opportunities that abound in this huge and complicated country.
CHINA
Peter is now teaching journalism at a college about 400 miles north of Hong Kong, near the Chinese coast. Peter is 76 years old, in good health, full of energy and enjoys his job as an educator. In that capacity he is able to travel unhindered (not everyone can) throughout China. He has personally observed the daily trials, troubles and opportunities that abound in this huge and complicated country.
Peter described a rapidly modernizing China. He presented information that gave each of us an improved perspective. Peter's knowledge, his scholarship and observations, were absolutely fascinating. Granted, we had a bit of a head start. At his suggestion, and prior to the meeting, we all read "OUT OF MAO'S SHADOW" by Phillip P. Pan. The author and Peter have similar observations. It's a terrific book, and helped to lay the foundation for Peter's comments. He used several excerpts from the book in his presentation. China's population is so mind-blowing-huge it is very difficult to visualize. Every problem in China is multiplied by the numbers. China is racing forward as it's government attempts to improve their entire society, their industrial ability, and their political administration. Fortunately, while pulling themselves up by the boot straps, the government discovered the very real benefits of capitalism and foreign trade. They have used this discovery (?) in recent times to boost the surge of their economy. Growing access to TV and other worldwide communications challenged their government and encouraged it o hurry. They are doing so - and in the process they've made a few mistakes. Like Tianamin Square.
Regardless, in most respects the China of today is nothing like China just 10 years ago. The pace of change is staggering. The present day Chinese circumstances are vaguely comparable to the [rural-to-city-to-industy] growth of America about 70 years ago. Americans think of that time as their [industrial revolution]. Well, right now is the time of China's.
THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY
1. 1/3 of the population is relatively advanced and rich.
2. another 1/3 generally considered the middle class,
3. and about 1/3 are living in absolutely awful poverty.
These figures seem not so unusual . . . until you realize that:
1. Taiwan. The island of Formosa/Taiwan
is considered part of China and it always
will be a part of China. End of discussion.
Today the Chinese Communist Party does not actually practice Communism as we have come to know it in Russia. Chinese Communism has always been different. Under Mao Tse Tung it was routinely changed to fit what he saw as [the needs of China], but it never was successful. It failed despite the changes. After Mao died the succeeding government was free to discard Communism altogether. In the world today, Chinese Communism would be better understood if it was known as :
THE CHINESE AUTHORITARIAN POLITICAL SYSTEM.
Before listening to Peter I was not aware that communism had been so thoroughly erased, nor that authoritarianism had so completely taken it's place. The original version of communism has been soundly rejected. After Mao died, the government, almost immediately, dismantled the failed communes and collective farms. They introduced a rapidly evolving Authoritarian Controlled Capitalism, and citizens are again allowed to own land and encouraged to develop businesses. Students are now being sent abroad to learn and bring back knowledge to China. As you read this, China continues it's fast pace forward and, as expected, Chinese problems are of monumental size. The people of China are probably served better by their present form of government than they could be by any other. The Chinese have very unique problems. For example:
1. 1/3 of the population is relatively advanced and rich.
2. another 1/3 generally considered the middle class,
3. and about 1/3 are living in absolutely awful poverty.
These figures seem not so unusual . . . until you realize that:
THERE ARE 500,000,000 CHINESE LIVING IN POVERTY.
It is the overwhelming numbers that make China unique. Any Chinese government must walk a narrow tightrope. Because of the shear number of discontented Chinese people living in a condition of terrible poverty - the government is in constant fear of the revolt of it's own population. It fears revolt as much as any external threat. For these reasons, among others, the government firmly believes it must be stern and authoritarian to maintain control. Yet, despite the problems, the government is metering more and more freedoms (and privileges) to Chinese citizens. This is happening at a time when China is racing toward modernization.
It should be said that the Chinese government is aware that it is sometimes over-controlling, brutal, and unfair. They are convinced that it can not be otherwise. They want to quiet criticism (with censorship) while sternly controlling the elements of change. They want to improve Chinese lives as fast as they possibly can, and they are forced to proceed rapidly - with caution.
It should be said that the Chinese government is aware that it is sometimes over-controlling, brutal, and unfair. They are convinced that it can not be otherwise. They want to quiet criticism (with censorship) while sternly controlling the elements of change. They want to improve Chinese lives as fast as they possibly can, and they are forced to proceed rapidly - with caution.
Peter Arnett discussed the [THREE T's] in China today. The government doesn't tolerate negative comments on these delicate subjects:
1. Taiwan. The island of Formosa/Taiwan
is considered part of China and it always
will be a part of China. End of discussion.
2. Tibet. The country was once part of China
and never was not. It is a critical element
of China's protection. It is now, and always
has been, a buffer between India and China.
and never was not. It is a critical element
of China's protection. It is now, and always
has been, a buffer between India and China.
3. Tianamen Square. It is history best forgotten
and not to be discussed or commented upon.
Period.
and not to be discussed or commented upon.
Period.
END
Comments
China didn't regard Tibet as separate but the world did but the world looked the other way when China overran it and occupied it. From what i read, they want the water as much as a buffer.
Taiwan could send us to war with China if they ever decide to take it by force but if it can be done as they did Hong Kong, maybe it will be peacefully resolved.
It seems the world has always settled its issues with violence. One would like to think it didn't have to be that way.
Like Rain, he's the kind of guy that has helped our enemy, causing the names of many of our troops to be carved into granite.
Why do you think General Giap decided not to lay down arms after Tet of '68 when the North Vietnamese had such a catastrophic loss?
ANSWER:
Because he saw the attitude of the general public was turning against the war and knew all he had to do was continue to bloody our nose, and we'd quit.
And that's exactly what happened.
When our enemy comes and reads your blog, do you think they are disheartened or encouraged?
You are aiding and abetting Rain. You're just to boneheaded to admit it.
I hope one day you get to talk with someone who has lost a son or daughter protecting your freedom to be stupid, and they make you understand what I cannot.
When they find their positions are indefensible, these lefties either change the subject, blame George Bush, or take their football and go home!
Logic?
We don't need no stinking logic!
And I like the Authoritarianism name. That is what we are heading to here. Obama may not be able to take us completely into socialism, but he certainly is creating a strong central government that has control over more of our lives than ever before in this nation.
"You want the truth?
YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!"
You've been lied to, by commission and omission.
And the Nation will suffer for your ignorance.
I need to learn a lot more about China. You've done a great job presenting Arnett's chat with the Geezers.
I understand why you're "anomymous", voicing that kind of crap.
Are you a Viet Nam Veteran? Are you even old enough to have lived through that time?
Do you have any idea how many Vietnamese died because of idiots like you?
Be ashamed of yourself.