MARK TURNER. I'm an interested ex-corporate exec., now retired, and have little to contribute to this. Perhaps you can help? At first I thought Mark's story was so complicated it couldn't be true. I discovered later that Mark's business may indeed have generated as much money as he said it did. His story is long and complicated, but regardless of his guilt or innocence, there is definitely something wrong with the legal process he encountered. Maggie Thornton says his business dealings were honest. I'm not thoroughly convinced, but she may be right. There is no question that he was improperly sentenced in one court, and deserves an appeal process in another.
I have received several comments from a blogger named "Anonymous". He (or she) has chosen to remain unknown but clearly has an inside track to information about Mark's problems. I have removed my original speculations from this blog and regret there were so many errors. Sorry folks, my fault entirely.
I have received several comments from a blogger named "Anonymous". He (or she) has chosen to remain unknown but clearly has an inside track to information about Mark's problems. I have removed my original speculations from this blog and regret there were so many errors. Sorry folks, my fault entirely.
1. When I first learned about Mark Turner I was told that he sold as many as 4,000 cars per year. Divided by 12 months that equals roughly 335 cars per month. Anonymous says that it never happened and that the quantity of cars sold was much less.
2. Mark was accused by the D.A. of money laundering. There seems to have been no evidence to support this charge.
3. Mark's civil lawyer (Jim Chase) was illegally threatened by the D.A. not to testify in Mark's behalf. He thereafter would NOT testify.
4. The civil lawyer Jim Chase later decided to testify at Mark's criminal trial, but Mark's criminal lawyer (Beroset) did not call him to testify.
5. Mark and Pete Moore had a verbal agreement whereby Pete would purchase 1/2 of Mark's Internet business. Pete has not honored this agreement.
6. David Turner (Mark's brother) is heavily involved in Mark's problems.
a. He tried to empty Mark Turner's bank account and failed.
b. He was involved in a suit against Hartford Insurance and the
suit was dropped in a criminal trial by Judge Michael Jones -
c. who also dropped David Turner's charge that Mark Turner
removed his name from the original business checking
account to take sole control of the company.
d. David Turner was not the owner of Mark Turner's companies.
Mark Turner was.
7. David Turner did tell his son in law Anthony Ramsey to give him the days deposit of nearly $40,000 which he then deposited into his (David Turner's) wholesale account. This money belonged to Pete Moore and Mark Turner.
8. David Turner did write Anthony Ramsey a check for $5,000 and gave him a car for helping him (steal) Mark and Pete's $40,000.
9. Curiously, Anthony Ramsey continued to work for Pete Moore?
10. Pete Moore and his Attorney Mike Guttmann did testify (I need to clarify civil or criminal trial.)
11. Mike Guttmann testified that he personally handed Mark Turner's check for $205,000 to Pete Moore.
12. Mark Turner sued Pete Moore civilly for $36,000,000. Pete's insurance company lawyers came after Mark Turner so they would not have to pay.
13. One of those (civil case) lawyers (perhaps Kevin Hausfeld) went to the Escambia Sheriffs Office and was given (by Sgt. Busby) all state evidence for a SLAPP case against Mark. This lawyer knew there was a legal case which included this lawyer's client Pete Moore. This act was in violation of the "chain of evidence custody".
14. Per "Anonymous: It is our belief that Mark's CRIMINAL ATTORNEYS were in cahoots with the D.A. and Pete Moore. Mark's attorney had Pete as a previous client! He should have excused himself from representing Mark and never should have taken Mark's money because it was a conflict of interest"!
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2. Mark was accused by the D.A. of money laundering. There seems to have been no evidence to support this charge.
3. Mark's civil lawyer (Jim Chase) was illegally threatened by the D.A. not to testify in Mark's behalf. He thereafter would NOT testify.
4. The civil lawyer Jim Chase later decided to testify at Mark's criminal trial, but Mark's criminal lawyer (Beroset) did not call him to testify.
5. Mark and Pete Moore had a verbal agreement whereby Pete would purchase 1/2 of Mark's Internet business. Pete has not honored this agreement.
6. David Turner (Mark's brother) is heavily involved in Mark's problems.
a. He tried to empty Mark Turner's bank account and failed.
b. He was involved in a suit against Hartford Insurance and the
suit was dropped in a criminal trial by Judge Michael Jones -
c. who also dropped David Turner's charge that Mark Turner
removed his name from the original business checking
account to take sole control of the company.
d. David Turner was not the owner of Mark Turner's companies.
Mark Turner was.
7. David Turner did tell his son in law Anthony Ramsey to give him the days deposit of nearly $40,000 which he then deposited into his (David Turner's) wholesale account. This money belonged to Pete Moore and Mark Turner.
8. David Turner did write Anthony Ramsey a check for $5,000 and gave him a car for helping him (steal) Mark and Pete's $40,000.
9. Curiously, Anthony Ramsey continued to work for Pete Moore?
10. Pete Moore and his Attorney Mike Guttmann did testify (I need to clarify civil or criminal trial.)
11. Mike Guttmann testified that he personally handed Mark Turner's check for $205,000 to Pete Moore.
12. Mark Turner sued Pete Moore civilly for $36,000,000. Pete's insurance company lawyers came after Mark Turner so they would not have to pay.
13. One of those (civil case) lawyers (perhaps Kevin Hausfeld) went to the Escambia Sheriffs Office and was given (by Sgt. Busby) all state evidence for a SLAPP case against Mark. This lawyer knew there was a legal case which included this lawyer's client Pete Moore. This act was in violation of the "chain of evidence custody".
14. Per "Anonymous: It is our belief that Mark's CRIMINAL ATTORNEYS were in cahoots with the D.A. and Pete Moore. Mark's attorney had Pete as a previous client! He should have excused himself from representing Mark and never should have taken Mark's money because it was a conflict of interest"!
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Comments
When we fly over some neighborhoods here my passengers will frequently ask incredulously, "WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE DO FOR A LIVING?"
And my answer, only half jokingly, is "They sell drugs!"
The "conspicuous consumption" of some folks is incredible. It's sad really...
I don't resent them the things they own, but no one can possibly use all those THINGS and truly enjoy them.
I'll be reading with interest, Dix.
please check your facts against the website trial transcripts at Markturnerandfriends and maggiesnotebook.blogspot
Mark Turner's civil trial is pending. Beroset was Mart Turner's criminal attorney. Chase is Mark's civil attorney. There was never any Mexico transactions or sales, ever. There was never any "loan" from Pete Moore to Mark Turner. There was a revolving line of credit where cars were sold for Pete on the internet and then when Mark Turner was paid by the customer, Pete Moore was paid by Mark Turner. There was never any 335 cars sold from Pete Moore to Mark Turner at any one time. There was never any connection between Bud Billings and Mark other than they both had similar deals structured through Rick Hamilton under the Pete Moore business model. The Christianson brothers were wholesaling cars on the side and both colluded with David Turner to fraudulently file against Hartford Insurance Company's bond for the car dealership on a vehicle they had already been paid for. Their charges were dropped in the criminal trial by Judge Michael Jones, as was David Turner's charge that Mark purposely removed his name off the original business checking account to take sole control of the company. David was not the owner of Mark Turner's companies. David Turner was the owner and paid taxes on his wholesale car businesses, Auto Gallery of Pensacola Wholesale out of Florida and Stateline Auto Sales out of Alabama. See his CPA's testimony. David Turner DID instruct his son in law Anthony Ramsey to provide him with the day's deposit of nearly $40,000 which he fraudulently deposited into his wholesale account. This money belonged to Pete Moore and AFC cars that Mark sold on his website. David Turner admits in trial he "lived off the money" he took.
David Turner did write Anthony Ramsey a check for $5,000 and a car for helping him steal Mark's $40,000 plus the checkbook plus the file of Titles to most of the vehicle inventory. David Turner also stole a vehicle from Mark's inventory to give to his mistress Linda Kehoe. To date, Anthony Ramsey continues to work for Pete Moore and David Turner continues to leach off his faithful wife Lisa Culpepper Turner.
Pete Moore DID testify numerous times. His civil attorney Mike Guttmann DID testify numerous times. Mike Guttmann DID state clearly in trial that he "personally put the check for $205,000 from Mark Turner's closing agent in Pete Moore's hand". Roxanne Sawyer DID testify that she never saw the check and thought Mark owed a balance of $106,000 which was the figures she gave to the State's Forensic Accountant. The State's Forensic Accountant never started with the corrent balance before subtracting the check/monies Mark paid Pete Moore Chevrolet. Rick Hamilton was also paid by Mark Turner. Rick Hamilton also sent a W2 for the balance owed, claiming it as a write off to the IRS. Pete Moore wrote off the balance owed with the IRS. How does someone get that done?
Mark did not owe Pete Moore any money. Pete owed Mark for the internet business he stole.
But there are many indicators that something (probably illegal) was going on between David/Mark/Billings/Pete and others. I finally gave up trying to piece it all together. Now you have brought many of my errors to light. I shall look over your comments carefully and make whatever changes appear to be warranted.
It may take me a few days.
Appreciate your comments.
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Steven Jones
Albany, GA
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